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    In the Name of Allāh, the Most Merciful, the Ever Merciful.

    Question:

    Shaykh `Alawī b. `Abd al-Qādir al-Saqqāf (حفظه الله تعالى):

    We would love for you to define the term Ahl al-Hadīth and what do Ahl al-Sunnah mean by it. Is it particular to the scholars of hadīth or does it apply to all the scholars of the Ummah? We hope for a detailed answers with full references, and we ask Allāh to bless you and to grant you the best reward.


    Your Brothers in the Administration of Multaqā Ahl al-Hadīth.

    Response:

    Noble brothers of Multaqā Ahl al-Hadīth, peace be upon you, and Allāh’s Mercy, and His Blessings.

    You, may Allāh bless you, asked for a clarification of the title Ahl al-Hadīth and what Ahl al-Sunnah intend by it, and whether it is particular to the scholars of Hadīth or encompasses all the scholars of the Ummah.

    Thus, I say in response – and with Allāh is the success:

    The ahl (people) of something are the most familiar with it. For that reason, in the language, the ahl of a man are the closest people to him.

    (1) Therefore, Ahl al-Hadīth are the people most familiar with Hadīth, the most strict in adherence to it, those who follow it in words and deeds in their manners, their conduct, their worship, their dealings, and in their beliefs both openly and in private. Those who are focused on the study, compilation, writing, and teaching of Hadīth, transmitting them understanding them, and sorting the authentic from the weak are most worthy of being included in this group.

    (2) Furthermore, the Ahl al-Hadīth are Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jamā`ah, for the Hadīth is the Sunnah and the Jamā`ah (Assembly) is nothing less than the truth. Anyone who follows Hadīth is upon the truth.

    (3) Ahl al-Hadīth are the Saved Sect (al-Firqah al-Nājiyah), for if one cannot be saved by following Hadīth, how then can he be saved? “The people most worthy of being the saved sect are Ahl al-Hadīth wa al-Sunnah who do not have partisanship for any leader save Allāh’s Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم).” [Majmū` al-Fatāwā (3/347)]

    (4) Ahl al-Hadīth are the Victorious Group (al-Tā’ifah al-Mansūrah). The one who does not find victory in Hadīth, in what then will he find victory?! Imām Ahmad said about the Victorious Group, “If they are not the People of Hadīth (Ashāb al-Hadīth), then I do not know who they are!” [Fath al-Bārī (1/85)]

    (5) It is they who shall be manifest upon the truth until the establishment of the Hour. It is by Hadīth that they become manifest and receive victory, and it is because of it that they are saved. All of these words and titles are general in a sense and specific in another. Thus, when one of them is mentioned, the others are included such that each word by itself refers to all the parties of the Saved Sect (al-Firqah al-Nājiyah). However, when the word Ahl al-Hadīth is mentioned alongside another word, it indicates that what is meant is those who are preoccupied with the study of Hadīth. This explains why many of the Salaf would use the word Ahl al-Hadīth in particular for those who were preoccupied with its study.

    Shaykh al-Islām, may Allāh have mercy on him, states, “We do not mean by Ahl al-Hadīth, merely those who are devoted to hearing them, writing them, or narrating them. Rather we mean by them all of those who are most deserving of having memorized them, knowing them, and understanding them apparently and in reality, and following them privately and publicly.” [Majmū` al-Fatāwā (4/95)]

    From this, we come to know the reason for the disagreement between the adherents of Ahl al-Hadīth in our time as to whether or not there is a distinction between these titles.

    (6) “Ahl al-Hadīth are the Salaf from the (first) three generations and those who tread their path from the Khalaf.” [Majmū` al-Fatāwā (6/355)]

    (7) The People of Hadīth are the People of the Prophet, For Even If
    They Did Not Accompany His Person, They Have Accompanied His Every Breath

    وأهل الحديث هم أهل النبي وإن *** لم يصحبوا نفسه، أنفاسه صحبوا

    (8) Ahl al-Hadīth are those who “seek the truth from its source, and they seek it out where it can be expected to be found. They seek nearness to Allāh (تعالى) by following the Sunan of Allāh’s Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and by seeking out his narrations over land and sea from the East to the West.” [Ibn Qutaybah, Ta’wīl Mukhtalif al-Hadīth (p. 80)]

    (9) Amongst the Ahl al-Hadīth, there is the scholar, the jurist (faqīh), and the preacher (khatīb) who commands good and forbids evil. Allāh has made them “Pillars of the Sharī`ah, and by them, He destroys every reprehensible innovation. Thus, they are Allāh’s Trustees amongst His Creation, the medium between the Prophet and his Ummah, and the ones who strive to preserve his religion. Their light is radiant, their virtues are well known, their signs are apparent, their views are predominant, and their proofs are indisputable. Every faction is devoted to a certain desire that it refers to and an opinion that pleases it and so to it is devoted, except for the People of Hadīth (Ashāb al-Hadīth), for the Book is their provision, the Sunnah is their proof, and the Messenger is their faction. It is to him that they ascribe. They are not concerned with the desires and opinions. What they narrate from the Messenger is accepted and they are the ones trusted in that. They are the caretakers and guardians of the religion, and they are the receptacles and bearers of knowledge. When there is a dispute concerning Hadīth, they are referred to, and their judgment is accepted. From them comes every erudite jurist, every noble Imām, every ascetic amongst his scribe, and every righteous preacher. They are the great majority, and it is their path which is upright. Every innovator pretends to share their creed and does not dare to express a view other than theirs. Anyone who plots against them, Allāh breaks him. Whoever stubbornly opposes them, Allāh forsakes him. They are not harmed by those who forsake, nor is there prosperity for those who separate from them. The one who cares for his religion is in need of their direction, the one whose sight is engaged by evil does not see them, and indeed Allāh is Able to assist them.” [Al-Khatīb al-Baghdādī, Sharaf Ashāb al-Hadīth, p. 4]

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    10) Ahl Al-Hadith are the boarder guards of Muslim states. Abu Mansour Al-Baghdadi said: “Those who guarded the boarders between Muslim states and Roman, Arab land, Al-Sham, Atherbijan, Africa, Yemen and Andalusia were following the Madhab of Ahl Al-Hadith. [Osool Al-Deen: 1/317 quoted from the history of Ahl Alhaith book by Al-Hashmi, page 59]

    11) Some of Ahl Alhadith had put all their effort to collect Hadiths so they traveled lands and seas from east to west such like: scholars who appeared in the first 500 Hijri years i.e. Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmithi, Abu Dawd, Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal and etc. However, not every person who works with examining and classifying Hadiths to authentic and weak are looked at -or even considered- from Ahl Al-Hadith. We have seen some of those new recent so called scholars not only refute Ahl Al-Hadith but also became their enemy. We even saw some of them who are nothing but misguided innovator or Sufi with myths and superstitions.

    12) Ahl Al-Hadith are the most familiar with Hadith because it is known that if you are completely familiar with the words, circumstances, situation of the one you follow, then it is normal to be the first to deserve such closeness. Thus, it is no doubt, that Ahl Al-Hadith are the most knowledgeable of what concerns the prophet, may allah exalt his mention amongst his angles and his companions i.e. the four well guided caliphs. [Majmoo Al-fatawa/: 4/91)

    13) Ahl Alhadith follow the steps of the companions because they “follow what the Hadith of the Prophet – May Allah exalts his mentioning above his angles- as well as what is added to his companions because they are the most familiar with the path, which the companions were on. Furthermore, they are the most knowledgeable people in Quran and Sunnah in every time and every place; therefore, they are with no doubt the best of creation (after prophets, angles, etc..) [Al’Aqeeadh Al-Asfahanyaa : 1/156]

    14) Ahl Alhadith never follow blindly or stick to all what is said by anyone but the Prophet – May Allah exalt his mentioning amongst his angles- as they are so familiar with Hadith since theu are the most knowledgeable people of what the prophet said, did and how he lived which enable them to distinguish between what is authentic and what is not. Thus, their scholars are scholars in Fiqh of the Hadith, have the knowledge of what Hadiths mean and how to apply them on themselves.
    They love and support who love Hadith while on the other hand they reject and stand against whoever reject Hadiths. Ahl Al-Hadith base their deen only on what is authentic from what was narrated from the prophet. They even consider Quran and Sunnah as the base where they base their deen upon. Accordingly they refer any matter that people disagree about amongst each other to Quran and Sunnah and upon they make their judgment. So if what they have is according to Quran and Sunnah then accept it otherwise they reject it completely while knowing the fact self-desires have no place at all in their heart. Furthermore, their judgment are never based or built upon guessing or doubts are ignorance and contain the evilness of the world. [Majmoo’e alfatwa 3/347]

    15) One of the main criteria that distinguish alh alhadith from others is being firm on what they believe and stand firm on the principle they have at the time o9f trials and hardship. It is not known that any of them ever compromised what they belief because of hardship that is why you find them having great patience. The firmness of ahlua lsunnah on what to believe is double sand doubles of what you find with ahl al-kalam and those who use philosophy. [majmoo alfatywa 4/50-51]

    16) Ahl Alhadith loves unity the most as much as they dislike disunity. “Unity happens only when people follow the Athar of prophets from the Quran, Hadith and what is related to it. On the other hand, disunity only occurs amongst those who left such valuable principles and adopted other sources. Allah says :{ yet they cease not differing, Save him on whom thy Lord hath mercy; and for that He did create them} Hud, 118-119. as can be noticed, Allah tells us that the people of mercy do not disagree and disunited since they are the followers of prophets by tongue, heart and acts and they are the people of Quran and Hadith from this nation. Thus, who disagree with them miss part of the mercy according to how much they disagree with [majmoo al;fatwa 4/50-51].

    17) Ahl alhadith have the uniqueness of the unity of their Manhaj and rarely you ever find them disagree. “an obvious evidence that ahl alhadith are on the right path, that if you read their books from the beginning to the end, the old and the new regardless the times they lived and the places where they are located or even the languages they spoke, you will find they have the same statements of creed and belief and rarely to find a thing they disagree on. Even if you collect all what they said you will feel as if it came out of one heart, uttered by one tongue . So tell what more evidence you need to know they are on the right guided path!!! [Al-Intesar li ashab al-hadith: Alsan’ani, page 45]

    18) Ahl alhadith are not infiatlable , so hey may commit sins and even to fall in the trap of some innovations that ahl alkaam have like alasha’ri, ibn hazm, imam nawawi and ibn hajr who are considered some of leaders of ahl alhadith . Yet they always get back to what is right if they were advised about a matter they were wrong at. Ibn taymmay said about Abu Alhasan al’shari: “therefore, he was considered as many like him from ahl alhadith who uses I’lm al-kalam and some philosophy. They were the best of these groups and the closest to Quran and Sunnah. however, due to his general knowledge in Sunnah while his knowledge in I’lm Al-kalam or philosophy was much more detailed, some of the dust of Mu’tazila which was the same case with many who are part of ahlu alsunnah and considered as ahl alhadith i.e. some of the friends malik, ahmad,m sha’fie and abu haniaf “ [dar ta’rod al’aqil ma’ al naql: 7/426].it even happens that some adopt the concept of Irjaa ( faith is only in the heart even if it is not implemented by tongue and actions) but they still considered from ahl alhadith in general as long as they do not believ so out of evil intention and insisting on the wrong. Ibn taymmay said in another place as well: “This type is chosen by some of who adopted the concept of Irjaa like Al-Asha’ari and others who calls for exceptions in Imaan and claim that Imaan does not include actions so they consider exceptions related to intentions only” [ Al-Isteqama 1/150]

    19) Ahlalhadith is not one party. On the contrary, you would find them every where, “ amongst them you will find the brave fighters, scholars, Hadith colecters, pious and righteous people and others who join the right and disjoin the wrong, etc… it si not necessarily to find them gathered in one place as you may find them everywhere” [ Sharh Muslim by Imam Nawawi 13/67]

    As seen above, these are the features and criteria of ahl alahdith , and I ask Allah that your forum to be the first who have such criteria and features.

    And may Allah exalt the mention of his prophet amongst his angles.

    Your brother,

    A’lawai bin abd alqader Al-Saqqaf

    Finished translated today: Sunday, 16 Jamadah Al-Akhira 1428 [01/ July 2007]

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    • #3
      Jazakumallahu khairan. And may Allah SWT bless shaikh Alawi al-Saqqaf and increase him in knowledge.

      A common misconception is to think that Ahl al-Hadeeth are students of Hadeeth only.

      In fact many people think that the Multaqa is only for sciences of Hadeeth. We faced this with the Arabic section.

      Ahl al-Hadeeth concern themselves with all aspects of Islamic knowledge and practice, taking the Quran and Sunnah as the sources for doing so.

      Wallahu A’lam.
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      • #4
        The Ahlul-Hadeeth

        The Ahl-ul-Hadeeth

        By Dr. Muhammad Deeya ar-Rahman al-Azamee

        Translated by Abbas Abu Yahya

        Ahl-ul-Hadeeth: Shaykh ul-Islaam said: ‘We do not mean to limit Ahl-ul-Hadeeth just to those who convey hadeeth, write them or narrate them but we mean by them: everyone who rightfully memorises the hadeeth, knowing them and understanding their apparent and hidden meanings and following them in what is apparent and hidden, and also the people of al-Qur’aan.’

        He continues:

        ‘The least of their traits is: love of the Qur’aan and hadeeth, researching them, seeking their meanings and practising that which they know is binding upon them. The Fuqaha of hadeeth are better informed about the Messenger -sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam- than Fuqaha other than them.’[1]

        He mentions:

        ‘Ahl-ul-Hadeeth are those about whom the Messenger of Allaah -sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam- said: ‘What I am upon and my Companions.’ And in another narration: ‘It is the Jamaah, The Hand of Allaah is over the Jamaah.’[2]

        Ahl-ul-Hadeeth are the best people of the Duniya, as Hafs bin Ghayaath said.[3]

        Shafi’ee said: ‘If I see a companion of Hadeeth then it is as if I see a man from the Companions of the Prophet, sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam, he is of that status.’

        He also said:

        ‘May Allaah reward them with goodness on our behalf, they preserved the foundation for us so they have an excellence over us.’[4]

        ‘Alee bin al-Madini said: ‘There are no people better than the companions of Hadeeth. The rest of the people were in search of the Duniya while they were establishing the Deen.’[5] i.e. the Sunnah.

        Hafidh Ibn Rajab said:

        ‘Ahl-ul-Hadeeth are an authority in knowing hadeeth and knowing the authentic from the weak hadeeth.’[6]

        The Prophet, sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam, supplicated for illumination of the one who busies himself with the knowledge of hadeeth, memorizing it, conveying it and understanding it. He, sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam, said: ‘May Allaah illuminate the person who hears a hadeeth from me and memorizes it until he conveys it. Perhaps a person who carries Fiqh conveys it to someone with more Fiqh than that person and perhaps the carrier of this Fiqh is not a Faqihi.’[7]

        Hafidh Abu Bakr Ahmad bin ‘Alee al-Khateeb al-Bagdadi specifically authored a book which he called ‘Sharf Ashaabul-hadeeth’ (the nobility of the companions of hadeeth). In it mentions Ahadeeth and Athaar from the Companions, Ta’bieen, kings, ministers and others from those who followed them about the excellence of knowledge of hadeeth, being busy with it and the nobility of its people over those of Ahl-ul-Bida’ and those of misguidance from the Zinaadiqa (heretics) who concerned themselves with the knowledge of rhetoric and philosophy. This book is a masterpiece in this subject.’

        * Taken from ‘Mu’jam Mustalah al-Hadeeth wa laataif al-Assaneed’ p.61-63

        ----

        [1] Majmoo’al-Fatawa (4/95)

        [2] Majmoo’al-Fatawa (3/345-347)

        [3] Al-Ilma’ p.27

        [4] Masalat al-‘Uloo wal Nazool p.45

        [5] Masalat al-‘Uloo wal Nazool p.45

        [6] Jama’ al-Aloom wal Hikam (2/105)

        [7] Narrated by Abu Dawood (4/69), Tirmidhee (5/33) by way of Umar bin Sulayman from the son of Umar bin al-Khattab, on the authority of Abdurrahman bin Abaan, on the authority of his father, on the authority of Zayd bin Thabit, RadhiAllaahu anhu, Marfoo’. It was also narrated by Ibn Majah (1/84) a different way on the authority of Zayd bin Thabit. Tirmidhee said it was Hasan and he also said: ‘and in this chapter it is also narrated on the authority of Abdullaah bin Mas’ood, Muadh bin Jabal, Jubayr bin Mut’im, Abu Darda and Anas, RadhiAllaahu anhum Jameean.’

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        • #5
          Jazaqkallah khair brothers,

          your have taken pain to describe who are Ahl Alhadith. How ever the best description of Ahl AlHadit is the Hadith of prophet Muhammad Salallahu Alaih wo sallam " What I am upon and my Companions" which talks about Najiah group.This is a true group adherent to Quran and Sunnah by practicing it in their daily life.

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          • #6
            I wish to bump this thread so that the members of this Multaqa be reminded of who are the people that this Multaqa represnt and hence try to act upon their way.

            This is a knowledge forum not a chit chat forum so please keep this in mind. Although, I understand most of our members are laypeople (including myself), i hope they can try to act as students of knowledge!

            Barak Allahu feekum
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            • #7
              Bump again
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              • #8
                What are the views of the knowledgeable senior members on this issue ?



                "... I have previously mentioned that this issue (of madhabs) is from the secondary issues, and not the primary ones, or perhaps related to the principles of Fiqh. However, there are those who make this issue a creedal one, and are often very staunch against following a madhab. There are groups in India and Pakistan who call themselves Ahl al-Hadeeth, who are very harsh against the followers of madhabs. However, we do not blame them because they are opposed by those who take their bigotry towards their madhabs to another level. This caused them (Ahl al-Hadeeth) to react by regarding one's attribution to a madhab the same as attributing oneself to a theological creed. Hence, they said: It isn't allowed for one to be a Jahmi, an Ash'ari, a Karrami, a Kullabi, a Salimi, a Wasili, a Nadhami, a Jahidhi, and so on; and similarly, it isn't allowed for one to be a Shafi'i, a Hanbali, a Maliki, a Hanafi, a Thawri or a Laythi...

                They considered one's attribution to the madhabs as one's attribution to the various doctrines. This is an error because the adherents of these madhabs are from the scholars of Sunnah, and they are all from Ahl al-Hadeeth. Allah aided them and granted them understanding and comprehension, and thus they were able to merge between memorisation and understanding. Subsequently, their ijtihad led them to various views which they then compiled in various works..."


                Sh Ibn Jibrin, al-Irshad p. 368
                ...you counted it a little thing, while with Allâh (SWT) it was very great. [24:15]

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nasirmuzaffar View Post
                  What are the views of the knowledgeable senior members on this issue ?



                  "... I have previously mentioned that this issue (of madhabs) is from the secondary issues, and not the primary ones, or perhaps related to the principles of Fiqh. However, there are those who make this issue a creedal one, and are often very staunch against following a madhab. There are groups in India and Pakistan who call themselves Ahl al-Hadeeth, who are very harsh against the followers of madhabs. However, we do not blame them because they are opposed by those who take their bigotry towards their madhabs to another level. This caused them (Ahl al-Hadeeth) to react by regarding one's attribution to a madhab the same as attributing oneself to a theological creed. Hence, they said: It isn't allowed for one to be a Jahmi, an Ash'ari, a Karrami, a Kullabi, a Salimi, a Wasili, a Nadhami, a Jahidhi, and so on; and similarly, it isn't allowed for one to be a Shafi'i, a Hanbali, a Maliki, a Hanafi, a Thawri or a Laythi...

                  They considered one's attribution to the madhabs as one's attribution to the various doctrines. This is an error because the adherents of these madhabs are from the scholars of Sunnah, and they are all from Ahl al-Hadeeth. Allah aided them and granted them understanding and comprehension, and thus they were able to merge between memorisation and understanding. Subsequently, their ijtihad led them to various views which they then compiled in various works..."


                  Sh Ibn Jibrin, al-Irshad p. 368
                  that is a good question and al-hamdulillah what the shaykh said is exactly correct, but it was not a villification of the ahlul-hadeeth over in the indo-pak region. What happens is that when you have a powerhouse climite of pure raw super taqleedism of madhaabs in such a region as pakistan and India, one tends to get over tense on madhaabs and thus the tensity tends to spill over to those who do subscribe to a madhaab but do not make taqleed of it.

                  We have to be balanced, we do not blast people for adopting a madhaab, rather we only take opposition to those who took the madhaab AS the only route of sunnah through the avenue of taqleed. It is hizbiyyah to a madhaab that is condemned, not merely a madhaab, and some of the writings of our brothers over there tend to be over bearing on all who even think of a madhaab.

                  Adding to that, there is a major difference between the ahlu-hadeeth of Pakistan, which is more political in nature, vs the earlier Indian ahlul-hadeeth, those who influences the actual movement initated by Sadiq Hasan Khan, who if I remember correctly is the student of Shawkaani.

                  wallahul-alim

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by al-boriqee View Post
                    Adding to that, there is a major difference between the ahlu-hadeeth of Pakistan, which is more political in nature, vs the earlier Indian ahlul-hadeeth, those who influences the actual movement initated by Sadiq Hasan Khan, who if I remember correctly is the student of Shawkaani.

                    wallahul-alim

                    asalamu alaikum

                    Actually, Ahl al-Hadith in Pakistan are many different groups, but what is the difference between them and earlier Indian Ahl al-Hadith?

                    Nawab Sadiq Hasan Khan was not a direct student of Shawkani but some of his teachers were.

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                    • #11
                      Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

                      Bump again

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                      • #12
                        Here is a small excerpt from the late Muhaddith of Sindh (may Allah grant him al Firdaus), Allaamah Badi'udeen Shah's "Tareekh Ahl al Hadeeth" - the translation could have been better, but the quotes are inspiring Masha Allah.
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                        • #13
                          bump ..........

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                          • #14
                            bump again

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                            • #15
                              scientifically speaking
                              if we go back to history there were no conflict between ahl alhadith and ahl arraei
                              now .some students think there is no link between the two
                              and the right word there is no separation between the two schools
                              it is the duty of ulama to clear the ambiguity between the two

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