The lie on Imam Malik about the story of Jafar Mansur
Salam aleykum
As-Subki also quoted the narration of Qadhi ‘Iyad in his “Shifa” that Ja’far Mansur, the second 'Abbasid caliph, when visiting the Prophetic mosque asked Imam Malik: “Shall I turn my face towards the Ka’ba or face the grave of the Messenger of Allah (saw) for invocation?” To which Imam Malik replied: “How can you turn your face away from the Messenger of Allah? He is your Wasilah and the Wasilah of your father Adam, peace be upon him! Rather turn your face towards him and seek intercession though him!...”
The Isnad is Qadhi ‘Iyadh: Qadhi Abu ‘Abdillah Muhammad ibn ‘AbdirRahman Al-Ash’ari and Abu Al-Qasim Ahmad ibn Baqi Al-Hakim and others who gave me the authority to narrate this, they said: Abu Al-‘Abbas Ahmad ibn ‘Umar ibn Dalhath narrated to us, Abul Hasan ‘Ali ibn Fihr narrated to us, Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Al-Faraj narrated to us, Abul Hasan ‘Abdullah ibn Al-Muntab narrated to us, Ya’qub ibn Ishaq ibn Abi Israil narrated to us, ibn Humayd narrated to us: he said Abu Ja’far Emir Al-Muminin called Malik in the mosque of the Messenger of Allah (saw)…
Ibn ‘Abdil Hadi said after quoting the story attributed to Imam Malik: “I say: What is known from Malik is not facing the grave for invocation, and this story quoted by Qadi ‘Iyad with his Isnad to Malik is not true from him, and the objector (As-Subki) said in a place of his book its Isnad is a good (Jayd) Isnad, and he is mistaken in this saying with a clear mistake, rather the Isnad is not good, it is an unjust Munqati’ (disconnected) Isnad, and it comprehends someone accused of lying, and on some whose condition is not known, and ibn Humayd is Muhammad ibn Humayd Ar-Razi, he is weak with a lot of Manakir, not based upon in narrations, and he did not hear anything from Malik nor met him, rather this narration from him is Munqati’ not continuous.
And the objector thought that he (Muhammad ibn Humayd) is Abu Sufyan Muhammad ibn Humayd Al-Mu’amari, one of the trustworthy narrators present in “Sahih Muslim”, he said: “Al-Khatib mentioned him among those who narrated from Malik” and he made a clear mistake in his thinking and an ugly error, because Muhammad ibn Humayd Al-Mu’amari came before, Ya’qub ibn Ishaq ibn Abi Israil the narrator from ibn Humayd in the story did not reach him, rather there is a great gap between them.
Al-Mu’amari narrated from Hisham ibn Hasaan, Mu’amar and Ath-Thawri, and he did in 182H before the birth of Ya’qub ibn Ishaq ibn Abi Israil. As for Muhammad ibn Humayd Ar-Razi then he is among the narrators from Al-Mu’amari like Abu Khaythamah, ibn Numayr, ‘Amr An-Naqid and others, and his death was in 248, and it is possible for Ya’qub ibn Ishaq to narrate from him contrary to narrating from Al-Mu’amari, because it is impossible.
Muhammad ibn Humayd Ar-Razi, and he is the one from whom the narration is narrated, has been criticised by many Imams and some attributed lie to him.
Ya’qub ibn Shaybah As-Sudusi said: “Muhammad ibn Humayd Ar-Razi mentions many Manakir” (note from Muhaqiq of “Sarim Al-Munki: see “Tahzib” 9/129)
Al-Bukhari said: “Hadithuhu fihi Nadhar (his Hadith has observations)” (At-Tarikh Al-Kabir 1/69 and “Ad-Du’afa As-Saghir” n°315)
An-Nassa’i said “He is not Thiqah” (“Ad-Du’afa wal Matrukin” p 32)
Ibrahim ibn Ya’qub Al-Juzjani said: “He had a bad Madhab, he is not trustworthy” (“Ahwal Ar-Rijal” n°382)
Fadlak Ar-Razi said: “I have fifty thousands Ahadith from ibn Humayd, and I do not narrate a word from him.” (“Tahzib” 9/129)
Abul ‘Abbas Ahmad ibn Muhammad Al-Azhari said: “I heard Ishaq ibn Mansur saying: “I witness in front of Allah that Muhammad ibn Humayd and ‘Ubayd ibn Ishaq Al-‘Atar are both liars.” (“Tahzib” 9/129)
Salih ibn Muhammad Al-Hafiz: “Every Hadith from Sufyan that reached him he would turn it to Mihran, and every Hadith from Mansur that reached him he would turn it ‘Amr ibn (Abi) Qays, and every Hadith of Al-A’mash that reached him he would turn it to similar to these and to ‘Anbasah” then he said: “Everything he was narrating, we would accuse him (of lying in it).”
And he said in another place: “His Ahadith would add (in words) and I have not seen someone daring (more lies) on Allah than him, he would take the Ahadith of people and would inverse them” and he said in another place: “I have not seen anyone more keen to lie than two men: Sulayman Ash-Shazkuni and Muhammad ibn Humayd Ar-Razi, he would learn a Hadith one day, and would add, and every day he would add (words). Abul Qasim said: ‘Abdullah ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Abdil Karim Ar-Razi, the nephew of Abu Zur’ah: I asked Abu Zur’ah about Muhammad ibn Humayd and he made a sign putting his finger on his mouth” I asked him: “Would he lie?” and he answered with his head saying yes…
Abu Nu’aym ‘Abdul Malik ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Adi: I heard Abu Hatim Muhammad ibn Idris Ar-Razi in his house, and ‘AbdurRahman ibn Yusuf ibn Kharash was present with him and also a group of scholars of (region of) Ray and their Hufaz of Hadith, and they mentioned ibn Humayd and they agreed on the fact that he was very weak in Hadith and he narrates what he did not hear, and he would take the Ahadith of the people of Basrah and Kufah and narrate them from the two Razi. Abul ‘Abbas ibn Sa’id said: I heard Dawud ibn Yahya saying: Abu Hatim heard from him before, meaning from Muhammad ibn Humayd then he left him at the end, he said: I heard ‘AbdurRahman ibn Yusuf Kharash saying that ibn Humayd narrated to him and by Allah he was a liar. (Al-Kamil 6/2277)
Abu Hatim ibn Hibban Al-Busti said in his “Kitab Ad-Du’afa”: Muhammad ibn Humayd Ar-Razi, his Kubiyah is Abu ‘Abdillah, he narrates from ibn Al-Mubarak and Jarir, our Shuyukh narrated from him and he died in 248H, and he was among those who were alone in inversing narrations of Thiqat, and specially when he narrated from the Shuyukh of his country…”
Al-‘Uqayli said in his “Kitab Ad-Du’afa”: “Ibrahim ibn Yusuf narrated to us, he said: Abu Zur’ah, Muhammad ibn Muslim narrated a lot from Muhammad ibn Humayd then they stopped narrating from him. And Al-Hakim Abu Ahmad said in his “Kitab Al-Kuna”: Abu ‘Abdillah Muhammad ibn Humayd Ar-Razi is not strong for them and Abu ‘Abdillah ibn Yahya Az-Zuhli and Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn Ishaq ibn Khuzaymah abandoned him.” End of ibn ‘Abdil Hadi’s words
Also after the weakness of ibn Humayd, there is also disconnection as ibn Humayd did not meet Malik as explained by Ibn Taymiyah in his “Al-Qa’idah Al-Jalilah fi Tawassul Wal Wasilah” and this chain contains other unknown narrators.
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