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Old 07-12-2017, 07:06 PM
Ibn Salah As-Salafi Ibn Salah As-Salafi is offline
 
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Question How understand the statements of Imam Ahmad?

I have a question too this and likes statemens of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal. In this statemen he says:

739 - سَمِعْتُ أَبَا مُحَمَّدٍ الْحَسَنَ بْنَ عُثْمَانَ بْنِ جَابِرٍ، يَقُولُ سَمِعْتُ أَبَا نَصْرٍ أَحْمَدَ بْنَ يَعْقُوبَ بْنَ زَاذَانَ قَالَ: بَلَغَنِي أَنَّ أَحْمَدَ بْنَ حَنْبَلٍ، قَرَأَ عَلَيْهِ رَجُلٌ {وَمَا قَدَرُوا اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ وَالْأَرْضُ جَمِيعًا قَبْضَتُهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ وَالسَّمَوَاتُ مَطْوِيَّاتٌ بِيَمِينِهِ} قَالَ: ثُمَّ أَوْمَأَ بِيَدِهِ , فَقَالَ لَهُ أَحْمَدُ: قَطَعَهَا اللَّهُ قَطَعَهَا اللَّهُ قَطَعَهَا اللَّهُ ثُمَّ حَرَدَ وَقَامَ

This is in Sharh Usul I'tiqad by al-Lalika'i. Is this sahih? If is sahih, how it is too understand? Because in this he says:

روى الخلال في كتابه "السنة" أن أبا بكر المروزي حدث بحديث إن الله يمسك السموات على أصبع عن الإمام أحمد وقال: رأيت أبا عبد الله يشير بإصبع إصبع

How it is this two Statements too understand?
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:14 AM
Bassam Zawadi Bassam Zawadi is offline
 
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It's possible for the first narration that Imam Ahmad understood the man to be discussing the kayf and that's why he condemned it.

This is presuming the isnad is saheeh to begin with, since the word بَلَغَنِي indicates that it's منقطع.

As for using gestures to emphasize the existing reality of Allah's attributes, check this out http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showt...9417#post59417
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Old 07-13-2017, 03:48 PM
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