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Old 06-28-2010, 05:48 PM
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Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

my dear brothers and sisters,

I would like to know how mental sicknesses like a psychosis or schizophrenia are treated in islam and if there were believers around the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam who suffered such an illness (where they had halucinations, anxiety/paranoia, hearing voices or sounds etc), without it being sihr or jinn.
How is Psychology and Psychotherapy conformable with Quran and Sunnah?

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Old 06-29-2010, 03:18 AM
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:07 AM
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as-salamu 'alaykum,

You may find the following links beneficial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtpibw1NRxg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax2A4...eature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecK_D...eature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVArx...eature=related
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:45 AM
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Shaykh talib is known by raaqis and patients (in the uk) to have given incorrect wrong advice saying people were mentally ill when later they were diagnosed as having jinn and sihr issues. I know several raaqis who have treated his patients and are advising others not to see him due to his incorrect diagnosis.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:27 AM
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Salam alaikum wr wb,

the person I'm talking about already sat with a sheikh (we stay in Germany) who is knowledgeable in these matters. He made ruqya on him and didn't find anything, also the person can remember everything what he did. I also talked to 3 other Imams (Da'ees) one of them who is also very known here treats posessed people with ruqya, but after he heard that this person has this "psychosis" the third time in his life now he said that it's very likely to not be Jinn or Sihr.

I know of one Sahabiyya who was epleptic, but I this isn't really the same - were there any other Sahaba? And how did they handle this illness

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Old 06-29-2010, 12:30 PM
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The question is bit general so I am unsure what exact points you are looking for. If you could specify your question then that should make it easier to answer you inshallah.

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Old 06-29-2010, 01:37 PM
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Assalamu alaykum wa Rahmatullah,

Insha'Allah, the information I will be posting, along with the one below, will answer some of your questions.

From the book: Sickness Regulations and Exhortations by Muhammad al-Jibaly

Chapter 6: Ruqyah

Subtitle: Insanity


Kharijah Bin as-Salt at-Tamimi reported this his uncle went to Rasulullah and embraced Islam. On his way back, this sahabi (Kharijah's uncle) passed by some bedouins who had among them a madman shackled in iron. The madman's family told the sahabi, "We have been told that this companion of yours (the Prophet) has come with good things. So, do you have anything with which to treat this?" The sahabi gave the madman ruqyah with al-Fatihah on three consecutive days in the morning and evening. Each time he recited it, he would collect his saliva in his mouth and then blow it over the madman. The madman was thus cured, and his family gave the sahabi a hundred goats. He went back to Allah's Messenger and told him about this. Rasulullah asked him, "Did you say anything else beside this?" He replied, "No!' The Prophet said: "Take them then. By Allah, many a person earns food because of a false ruqyah, but you have indeed earned them because of a true ruqyah." [Abu Dawud, an-Nasai and others. Verified to be authentic by al-Albani]


My son is schizophrenic, has a severe case, only finished 8th grade, can't work and has been sick for 20 years. In the past, he has seen several shaykhs, who have told him to perform wudu with water that has Quran read over it. My son is so sick that he would not do it for himself so my husband poured it over him. Anyway, I tried the above and it didn't work for my son, but the deen is Haqq and Allah knows best. So one must be patient, alhamdulillah.

Insha'Allah, it will cure the person that you have spoken about.

I have a couple of news articles from a Muslim country that I came across in the past and have saved them. Insha'Allah, I will post them shortly.
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:41 PM
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Schizophrenia awareness in Saudi
(Our Correspondent)

13 April 2010

JEDDAH — An estimated 250,000 Saudis suffer from schizophrenia, and “many are not aware of the nature of this mental illness and its impact on the person and society,” according to Samira bint Abdullah Al Farhan, director of the Saudi National Association for Schizophrenia, which held its first board meeting in Riyadh on Sunday.

The Association aims to raise awareness about the disease and provide support and consultation for families and caretakers who work closely with Saudi nationals suffering from this psychological disorder. Al Farhan said that the Association could offer support to the patients’ families through health-care providers in specialised centres.

habib@khaleejtimes.com





And the below article was published about 3 years ago:



Spiritual and Clinical Psychology Not Mutually Exclusive
Javid Hassan, Arab News



Mohammad Abbas


RIYADH — There are a lot of misconceptions in the Kingdom over the causes of depression, schizophrenia and other psychological and mental disorders, according to a Riyadh-based clinical psychologist-cum-spiritual psychologist. "A majority of the people attribute such problems to the effect of black magic or evil eye, when it is not necessarily the case," Mohammad Abbas, a Saudi spiritual and clinical psychologist, told Arab News.

He said that in many cases, such disorders are the result of social stress, family problems and tension. Alternatively, they could also be caused by black magic. Abbas, who holds a degree in clinical psychology, helps people identify the root cause of the problem. "If it is a spiritual problem, I cure it myself since I've been practicing Qur'anic healing for over 15 years. But if it's a clinical problem, I give them medical advice, since I'm also a clinical psychologist."

He pointed out that in one particular case, a Maronite Christian embraced Islam after treating him for black magic. The man had been suffering from a chronic psychological illness for several years. "I was able to cure his problem through Qur'anic treatment and brought him back to a normal life," he said.

Abbas said a new field of knowledge, Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP), has emerged in the US that seeks to explore people's inner personality to determine a person's mode of thinking and behavior. The difference in approach between NLP and the type of treatment that Abbas offers is that in the West, every form of mental disorder is considered a clinical problem. This stems from the fact that the West does not believe in spiritualism as a causative factor.

Q: What is spiritual psychology and how does it differ from clinical psychology?

A: Spiritual psychology is based on pure religious treatment and follows the Prophetic tradition: Allah has created this soul and knows its cure as well. On the other hand, clinical psychology is related to the safety of the soul and the body. Though some claim that clinical psychology does not have any relationship with religion, the Qur'anic clinical experiences of patients have demonstrated its success. We believe that ignoring the importance of spiritual and religious aspects (which is the Western approach) is creating current-day problems. For example, it has been confirmed that it is possible to enhance the ability of the immune system to overcome diseases, including malignant ones, when a person succeeds in harnessing the potential of faith within.

Q: Do you think spiritual psychology is a type of religious incantation? What are their differences and similarities?

A: There are some diseases caused by evil spirits, which infect people by inflicting psychological and bodily injuries. However, they cannot be perceived by the normal senses of hearing, sight and touch. They can be met through a counter force, which the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) has approved and endorsed. Both behavioral and psychological diseases resulting from satanic spiritual diseases can be treated through clinical practice and by reciting Qur'anic verses to detect the disease. Those in need can contact me on alabbas321@hotmail.com.

Q: Are these diseases the result of evil eye, witchcraft and possession by Jinn?

A: Clinical specialists have classified psychological disorders into two kinds: neurosis and psychosis. The first includes a wide range of disorders, such as anxiety, phobias, compulsiveness, depression, panic, etc. The second relates to schizophrenia. The basic difference between the two types is that the victim is not aware of the reality of his or her situation. The psychotic patient, on the other hand, suffers from disturbed thinking and abnormal behavior and his social relations are almost nonexistent. We shall not touch on insanity because it is an established mental disorder. In my opinion, the cause of severe mental disorders is not due to religious reasons, but due to popular unscientific beliefs contributed by those physicians who are unfamiliar with psychological and spiritual diseases. They are totally ignorant of human psychology and causes of diseases resulting from disturbed lives and behavioral circumstances. History records that doctors and intellectuals in the Muslim world were the first people who introduced the concept of mental illness and refuted the belief that they are related to evil spirits. They treated such diseases normally. On the other hand, the Europeans burned mentally ill people alive or rejected them as insane. We believe that diseases caused by the evil eye could cause acute physical and psychological illnesses, which cannot be detected through X-rays.

Q: Is it true that spiritual psychology does not work but with religious people alone?

A: I shall mention here specifically the treatment from Qur'an in relation to non-Muslim patients. The Qur'an is a source of cure, relief and tranquility. Many of those who embraced Islam confirmed that their recitation of the Holy Qur'an gave them mental peace and provided a cure for sickness.

Q: How can we decide that the patient needs psychological, clinical or spiritual treatment?

A: The face-to-face meeting is very important in the psycho-spiritual diagnosis along with clinical test, which help in finding out if there is any psychological or physical problem so as to avoid any medical conflict at the behavioral and psychological levels. The patient will also have to go through a clinical test to identify his or her characteristics and behavioral pattern. After making sure that the patient is totally free from all sorts of diseases — physical, psychological and behavioral — he will be treated according to the latest Shariah and clinical method.

Q: Is there a role for relaxation and meditation in the psycho-spiritual type of treatment?

A: Relaxation and spiritual meditation are among many ways of getting rid of anxieties and tension. For a long time, many of the nations have been practicing different forms of relaxations for the body and mind. This is done through deep breathing and exercises.


http://www.arabnews.com/?page=9&sect...d=3&m=5&y=2007
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:19 PM
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Salam alaikum wa rahmaullahi wa barakatuh,

may Allah reward you all for your answers. Especially the articles posted by Sister Amatullah are very helpful.

The brother suddenly became very strange he thought he had sihr or was posessed. When I made ruqya on him he started behaving like a posessed (screaming, spitting, talking to me as he was someone else) after that he said he felt better but continued with throwing clothes out of the window, burned the quran, claimed that his former ego had died and he is someone else now, he doubted everyone, heard noises others didn't hear, suffered severe waswas to the point that he wanted to throw himself from the balcony, had illusions, thought that he had supernatural power and felt observated. Many, many frightening things happend within these 3-4 days. After that he saw that shaykh, but that time the worst phase was over. He felt so insecure and thought he'll die any moment, that people want to kill him.
And this is actually the third time this happens to him (2 x in Marocco with age 18 & 23 and now after our marriage with 26).
I suffered a great shock, it was the greatest trial of my life till now. And it must be 10 times greater for him. Especially because he also doubted me as his wife and thought I was someone else and would plan something against him.
Now he is just like he was all the time before - of course somehow under shock and depressive.
I'm also still suffering anxiety at nights, which deprives me from qiyam al-Layl or even sunnah prayer after Ishaa. I know this is pointless and at the time these things happend Allah swt gave both of us so much strength but now I feel (and I thinks its the same with him) like I can't move further everything broke down but still we somehow try to keep everything going just like before. We don't have family here around which makes the case worse for us.

The actual problem is that he is not at all convinced of Psychology in general because he says our only cure is Quran - which is very true - but Allah gave us also other ways to be healed, that are combined with trust in Allah and Ruqya, isn't it?
He didn't see the doctor yet, so we can't say for sure what it was - he still thinks it could be 3ayn or witchcraft - he remembers everything he did and says he did it knowingly but still couldn't help it due to the great wasawis he was suffering. He tries and tries to find an explanation for all this but it is inexplainable for him and says that whatever happend it is a trial and warning from Allah swt and that he wouldn't be alive now if Allah wouldn't have saved him and helped us so much.
Alhamdulillah.

I'm sorry for the huge text, I didn't actually want to post this but I'm like stranded and very grateful for any kinds of istishara, ideas or experiences especially from inshaallah righteous & knowledgeable brothers and sisters like you - they are very rare over here.

May Allah guide us. Jazakumullahu khayran.

Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

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Old 06-29-2010, 07:42 PM
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Wa alaykum assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,

I strongly suggest that he see a pyschiatrist. He could have paranoid schizophrenia, which could be a threat to you. Allahu alim.

There are spiritual illnesses, and there are physical illnesses. Even the brain is an organ, just like the heart, kidneys, liver, etc. Just as other organs can have problems, the brain can too.

Personally, my son is on an anti-psycotic drug, and I do believe that he would be violent without it. He has shown some violence in the past.

My dear sister, I suggest strongly that you convince him to see a pyschiatrist. Tell him to make istikara and insha'Allah, Allah will guide him as to what is best.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:59 PM
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sub7anAllah sis umm ouweys, may Allah make it easy upon u both ameen.
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:49 AM
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umm uways,

salamaualiakum wr wb,

May Allah cure him and ease both your pain.

Is the brother able to read quran? If he is, ask him to read surah al baqarah once a day for at least a month. If he is able to do it twice a day then this is better. I know people who have been cured just from reciting surah al baqarah for a month or 2.


I don't know of what else I can tell you except, dua, dua, dua.

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Old 06-30-2010, 06:35 AM
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

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My respected sister Umm Ouweys,

Indeed, this life is nothing but a prison to all believers but only the comfort of knowing that such imprisonment is soon to end makes us survive. I am positive that none can feel your worry and concern excepbt someone who goes through under similar trial and test. Nonetheless, even these trials are destined to be a form of mercy to us in order to expiate our sins or at least get us rewarded. So, be hold to the advice of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) whose trials cannot be compared to our minor trials; he said: "be patient" and Allah says "seek assistance via patince and Salah".

It is obvious that your husband, May Allah hasten his cure, is not suffering any Jinn or Sihr. He is suffering a physcological problem that can be cured inshallah. I therefore suggest to take the following steps in order to protect him and everyone else around him:

a. ask the help of your family or his family because I do not think it is safe to be with him at this stage as much as it is not safe for him to be alone or live in high floor.

b. Take him to a trustworthy pyschiatrist as Umm Salahudeen advised. If you had to make his stay at a hospital under supervision of doctors that would be better so that he does not harm himself or others while not being aware of that.

c. While they treat him with wordly medicine, also treat him with Quran and Ruqya. Many people think ruqya is for spiritual sickness only while as a matter of fact it is a cure for everything even the headache and toothache that one might have.

d. keep making duaa to cure him as your duaa now at this point is answered inshallah since it is the duaa of al-mudttar.

May Allah make you strong and aptient and return your husband back healthy and safe from this illness.

wallahu al-must'aan
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:47 AM
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Walikum Salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Pls join this ruqya forum to get some help and advice from people suffering the same sort of illnesses. Surah baqrah is good but i read it for 70x days even on menses and I was still affected, but thats just my luck.

http://www.ruqyashariyah.org/
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personally i wouldnt go to a doctor because it will be a stigma on his health record for the rest of his life, my older bro is a paranoid schtizophrenic (its actually sihr) and they wont let him out and its very difficult to get him to do proper ruqya when they are watching him all the time.
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Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

Jazakumullahu khayran for all your help! I couldnt find the time to answer earlier.

@Br Mohammad: Yes hes able to read quran and make dhikr, he made that du'a all the time, while he was suffering these thing subhanallah, but now it's like nothing happend and he barely prays sunna prayers... he's somehow depressive
@Br Ayman:
May Allah reward you for your advice, concerning point (a): Actually after these 4 days he didn't have these problems anymore so he's now normal just like he was the whole 2 years before this happend. Allahu alem, if this happens again, I think it woul take at least a year - inshaallah nothing like this will happen again.
@umm abdullah: Subhanallah my sister, may Allah swt help your brother! And cure him from sihr inshaallah.

Barakallahu feekum

Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

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I came across the following and wanted to share as I understand it is related to the topic and may bring benefit to some 'insha Allah.

Islam's Treatment for Depression

One of the cures for depression is talbeenah. If the cause is biological and not spiritual (like evil eye or sihr), then talbeenah is great.

There are many benefits of talbeenah aside from aiding in treatment of grief. The recipe for talbeenah and date shake is as follows:

- 1 cup water
- 2 tblsp barley flour
- You need to constantly stir or it will lump up.
- Bring to boil then reduce heat to a simmer, continuously stirring for 10-15 minutes.
- Add honey and milk if you like. It tastes great cold too. You can add a bit of cinnamon (also great for relieving stress as it increases Serotonin). If you get lumps just blend it with stick blender or pulse in regular blender a few times.

Read the narrations below and some other benefits of barley.

Narrated from A'ishah (may Allah be pleased with her), that if a member of her family died, the women would gather together, then they would depart, except her own relatives and close friends. She would order that a pot of talbeenah be cooked, then some thareed would be made and the talbeenah would be poured over it. Then she would say: Eat some of it, for I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) say: “Talbeenah soothes the heart of the sick person, and it takes away some of the grief.” [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

Also from A'ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) that she would order talbeenah be made for the sick and the one who was mourning a death, and she used to say: I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) say: “Talbeenah soothes the heart of the sick and takes away some of the grief.” [ibid]

It is called talbeenah because it is like milk (laban) in its whiteness and consistency.

Ibn al-Qayyim said: "If you want to know the virtue of talbeenah, then think of the virtue of barley water, for it is barley water for them. It is a soup that is made from barley flour with bran. The difference between it and barley water is that the latter is made from whole grains, whereas talbeenah is made from flour, which is more beneficial as the properties of the barley are released through grinding. We have mentioned above that habits have an effect on whether medicines and foods are of benefit. It was the habit of the people to drink barley water made from flour rather than whole grains, which is more nourishing and effective" [Zaad al-Ma’ad, 4/120]

Al-Hafidh ibn Hajar said: "It is a kind of food that is made from flour or bran, to which honey may be added. It is so called because it resembles milk in its whiteness and consistency. Its benefit is that it is soft and well-cooked, not hard and raw." [Fath al-Baari, 9/550]

Barley is also a good source of B vitamins which are essential to warding off fatigue & mental illness. A deficiency in B vitamins can decrease your ability to deal with everyday stress, lead to depression, even psychosis.

The Sunnah teaches us what medical science is only just discovering.
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